No fee to park here. This trailhead is next to a small quarry. The trail markers are very easy to follow, however they are your only markers. Challenging for an LG12 hike. We are two avid hikers in our 50’s. I needed to hike the Tongue Mountain Range, a peninsula that juts into Lake George in the eastern Adirondack Park, for a guidebook I was writing. We had a little conversation. Which leads me to believe the tiny minority, that rattlesnakes do in fact give off a cucumber smell. These snakes are quite active during the day, which increases the chance of sightings. 2. 76 likes. We hiked the loop clockwise. Explore around this area for great views out over the lake. Arrive early during busy season since parking spots are limited. Our peak climbing was 30+ min miles and our pace on the “flats” was 20+ min miles. Brown has confirmed the reality of long, wild lifespans that hadn’t been recorded before. We offer quality and a variety of reptiles and amphibians throughout the United States. Call or text 754-264-1591 for quickest response and to request a list as I have many more reptiles available. Despite their size, cryptic coloration allows them to be easily concealed. As they stick their tongues out, what they are really doing is taking in a deep breath. Most of the mountain is a challenging hike. Lower Tongue and NW Bay loop. We hiked this trail on 9/6/20 in a clockwise direction, and the trail was in great condition. They wind around several miles of the lakefront and there are plenty of places for a swim. Clay Meadow trail at top of Tongue Mountain Hwy (Rt.9N). TONGUE MOUNTAIN RANGE - Note there are many rattlesnakes in this area. To reach Five Mile Mountain you'll first climb the 1966 foot Brown Mountain and pass the Five Mile Mountain Lean To. The trail features many spectacular views as well as two lean to shelters for backpackers. Look for nesting pairs of Peregrine Falcons & waterfowl. Young snakes may have spots of white or yellow under their chin. Rattlesnakes can be found in many regions around Colorado with the western rattlesnake (Crotalus viridis) being most common. link above. ... open the mouth, let the tongue dangle, salivate and get dirt in the mouth, roll onto its back and become motionless. From here you will head down to Deer Leap Junction and head back to the car. Females give birth to 4 to 21 young in late summer; the young are marked similarly to adults, but colors are brighter. You must supply one verifiable piece of information - e-mail address or birthday - in addition to the username - for security reasons. Numerous birds inhabit or visit the area including various waterfowl and Peregrine Falcons . Measured 13.1 miles (without going to the point), and 3800 ft. of elevation gain. The rattlers were once hunted for bounties, which were outlawed in 1971. They enjoy the shelter in the wooded areas but also enjoy basking in the sun on exposed rocks. Rattlesnakes held in captivity live an average of 15 years. No sightings of snakes, just an awesome trail and views. Tongue Range Notes: All six of the following peaks are a part of the Tongue Mountain range on the west shore of Lake George. When the tongue slips back into its mouth, it touches a sensitive spot on the roof of the mouth called the vomeronasal organ, or Jacobson's organ. Shelving Rock Mountain and Shelving Rock Falls Trail, North Tongue Mountain Range, Five Mile Mountain and Lake George Trail, Uncas Waterfall via Terzian Trail [PRIVATE PROPERTY], Shelving Rock Falls and Shelving Rock Mountain Trail, Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. But they are common in several areas: Tongue Mountain; Black Mountain Point (I understand they … On the way out I met a family going up who asked if I had seen any. We hiked clockwise to fifth peak last fall and counterclockwise to first peak with a bushwhack down to the NWbay trail. In the Adirondacks, the snakes also can be found on Tongue Mountain and other spots around Lake George. Mix of icy and muddy/wet today. Beautiful views. Great trail with beautiful views. The trail is primarily used for hiking, snowshoeing, and backpacking and is best used from April until October. These are large snakes some approaching 5 feet (1.5 m) in length. The other two varieties, the Massasauga and the Midget Faded Rattlesnake, will grow to around 30 inches. Heed the rattlesnake warnings—nearly stepped on one that had just killed a chipmunk and wasn’t going to share its lunch. It’s a Smelly Tongue. The tongue of the Rattlesnake is forked and it picks up microscopic airborne particles from the air. There’s a little bit of everything on this trail- some mud, rocks, overgrowth, views, and runnable trail. Rattlesnakes have a forked tongue that they flick up and down. Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. This is a popular and easily reached lookout over northern Lake George. Views From The Top recommends that all hikers read and familiarize themselves with the hikeSafe web site before venturing into the back country. The 10.5 mile Tongue Mountain Range Trail is a popular hiking destination in the Lake George Wild Forest of the southeastern Adirondacks. The ascent up 1st peak took longer than expected and sometimes required extra caution. Tongue “Mountain” is actually a series of connected peaks running nine miles along the spine of a peninsula that juts southward into the lake, with Northwest Bay on the west side, and the island-dotted Narrows on the east. The hike out is along the water, however we were getting tired and just wanted it to be done. *Rattlesnakes are found in this area! Elapsed time was 7.5 hours. Our team serves as reptile wholesale suppliers for a large number of pet stores, zoos, and even private collectors. If this is your first visit, be sure to Tip: There is a specific species of rattlesnack that only lives in the Tongue Range so be aware of this, not necessarily scared of this as they certainly are more afraid of you than you are of them. System contains over 18 miles of marked foot trails. Took a total of 6 hrs. In the photos the summit is shown in the upper left hand side of the photo. It took us 6 hours and we recorded 10 miles. No rattlesnakes. Strictly Reptiles is an online reptile store that employs some of the best reptile breeders in the industry. The state Department of Environmental Conservation notes that timber rattlers usually are three to four and a half feet long, so the one Seth encountered was larger than average—unless his eyes deceived him. Split Rock Mountain on the “Adirondack Coast” of Lake Champlain is known as a place where the Timber Rattlesnake (Crotalus Horridus) enjoys an almost perfect habitat. Be aware of timber rattlesnakes, as this area is known to have rattlers. Two stars because this trail is tooooo long. Dogs are also able to use this trail but must be kept on leash. This is a long loop but very gratifying. The largest is the Prairie Rattlesnake, capable of growing to more than 4 1/2 feet long. Also, this trail was not crowded at all, but I did hike it on a Friday not Saturday or Sunday, also the parking lot is not that big, so I would try and get there early when you go. "It's kind of a critical time for mountain biking." Fantastic views of the narrows, multiple ecosystems...it’s long, second half gets a little old. 12.5 miles and a bit over 8 hours with decent breaks. The “flats” aren’t flat, but they aren’t difficult either; more of an expectation looking at the elevation map. I followed the mileage I’d gone on my phone to know I was at the end, and I had gone over, what looked like 3 peaks. This pretty snake is variously called the Arizona Mountain kingsnake or Sonoran Mountain kingsnake, It may be 2.5 to 4 feet long. That being said, the peaks are GORGEOUS! Please include your screen name. Beautiful views of Lake George and an easy walk along the shore line. You will park at the southern trailhead for the Tongue Range, Clay Meadows next to a quarry. There are three approaches to Tongue Mountain: Hiked the trail on 9/6 and encountered one rattle snake on the trail. The summit of Five Mile Mountain is 1.7 miles from the trail that marks the beginning of the Tongue Mountain Loop (described in the overview section) and thus offers a … check out the FAQ by clicking the 1) A myth exists that a cucumber smell comes from rattlesnakes 2) The Tongue Mountain Range is known for harboring rattlesnakes 3) The only place I have ever smelled random cucumber is the Tongue Mountain Range. Some downslope areas are dangerous as hell. DEC said that rattlesnakes were wiped out at many New York locations, killed for the bounties once paid for dead rattlesnakes, or because they were considered a pest, or they were taken for the exotic pet trade. Mountain Kingsnake. It should also be noted that the Tongue Mountain range is home to timber rattlers, which are poisonous snakes that can pose a serious threat to hikers. Mike and Cheryl here. I used my Garmin FR 945 watch. They are the largest venomous snake in New York State, so you should be extra cautious while traversing this area. I am delighted to know about you and your long association with rattlesnakes on Tongue Mountain! Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail is a 14.8 mile heavily trafficked loop trail located near Bolton Landing, New York that features a lake and is only recommended for very experienced adventurers. Very well marked with new markers. This snake is commonly 3- to 4 feet long and rather plump compared to other kingsnakes. From here if you have the energy you can head down to the lake for a dip. There is a wonderful anecdote about Appy taking a group of women to his camp on Turtle Bay, ans when it came time to get back in the boat, he informed them that there was a rattlesnake … Prairie Rattlesnakes prey on a variety of … Remember that in NH, Fish and Game can and will charge you for some or all expense(s) incurred if you need to be rescued. On slipping back into the mouth, the tongue touches a spot on the roof of the mouth known as the Jacobson’s organ or the vomeronasal organ. There is not enough visual rewards for the length of this trail. From there you will follow a nice trail around the shore of the lake to Montcalm Point where you'll have great views of the Narrrows. The other photos show the views down to the lake. Everything I’ve read indicates that “ rocky outcrops and open grassy areas with … I would recommend going clockwise and doing the mountains first- it will make the second half of the hike more enjoyable. Then you'll gradually ascend the southern end of the Tongue Range over 3 nice peaks with great views over the lake below. The views were superb, and they got better from each peak (heading south). Head along the lake towards Montcalm Point and you will return to here on the way out. (Most of the leaves were down) There were a few scrambles, nicely placed stepping stones and some blow downs blocking the trail. They can track the odors of their prey along the ground with their tongues thanks to a smelling organ that’s in the roof of their mouth. According to the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center, approximately 20 to 30 bites are reported in Colorado each year. If you have forgotten your password, please click here to send an e-mail requesting your password be reset. The length of the trail combined with the steep terrain makes it a challenging all day hike. Start hiking down the trail which will cross the outlet of Northwest Bay shortly and then come to a trail junction. Didn’t see any snakes. My GPS registered 12.8 miles (All Trails indicates 14.8), but we did not do the point. The tongue is mostly black. This review is for Tongue Mountain Range and Northwest Bay Trail. Call NYS DEC for hiking trail maps. But these snakes typically calm down quickly if held. It was a sunny, hot day after a cool evening, so I was watching out and actually hoping to see a rattlesnake. Two color patterns are commonly found: a light phase, which has black or dark brown crossbands on a lighter background color of yellow, brown or gray, and a dark phase, which has dark … 13.6 miles, so be prepared. There were some sketchy sections. In addition, mountains in the Tongue Range are a known habitat for Timber Rattlesnakes. I chose to go along the lake first which was a pleasant walk and made good time. We were planning on out and back but did the loop and cut off a few miles with a bushwhack out (like a prior reviewer) because we really didn’t have the return trip in us. The scales are weakly keeled, and there are 25-27 dorsal scale rows at midbody. They said "watch out on Turtle !". If you park where it says to, next to the pond type area, from there you walk to your right to the forest preserve path. Long day. A great loop hike that brings you along the shore of Lake George then over 3 small peaks on the Tongue Mountain Range. Harder than expected (from some Catskills 35ers and ADK 46ers). The area was one of the few places in New York where timber rattlesnakes had escaped a couple hundred years of bounty hunters, fearful farmers and pet-trade poachers. Nonetheless, these snakes are not aggressive, and striking is only used in defense as a last resort. Rattlesnakes use their tongue, which is forked, a lot like a bloodhound uses its nose. But, you could also park at the northwest pond parking area, which is a little before the tongue mountain parking, and has a sign for! Take exit 24 off of I-87 and head east on the Bolton Valley-Riverbank Road toward Bolton Landing. It was a lot of ups and downs today. Highlight is French Point Mt views up and down N and S of the lake. My GPS read 14.8 which is different than other reviewers- not sure why the discrepancy but it really is an arduous hike. You are the top of the first mountain in this loop hike, First Peak. When you get to Route 9 turn left to head north. Perfect hiking weather. We loved it! "The reason people like to go there is access to Lake Champlain," Capone said. I ran out of light at the end and hiked with a headlamp. Then you’ll walk further and see the different trails you can access. As long as you are prepared for the long miles, it will not disappoint. Populations at Shelving Rock on the east shore of Lake George and at French Mountain were among those wiped out. Timber rattlers range as far south as Florida and as far west as Texas. I'm not sure of the reason, but it certainly seems like the area around Lake George and the Southern end of Lake Champlain is rattlesnake country. So relax and snap a few photos. This was a great trail! Dead Last > Did Not Finish > Did Not Start, We camped on Turtle #11. They are also entirely absent in Glens Falls (where I live). Slippery leaves don't boost confidence. And overall a great trail! After you reach the first peak, there’s no more signs letting you know what summit you’re at. We packed lunch, snacks and two liters of water each; bug nets, poles and a hat. Great hike, bring lots of water and enjoy the walk. Plus there are sections where the descents are just not fun. "We KNOW so, a Ranger removed a nice 3 footer at our request from our site (Turtle 24) yesterday !". It looks PERFECT up there for them ! Stay on trail, wear high boots, watch where you put your hands! We started late, so proceeded clockwise to tackle the 3 peaks first. Deer Leap (3.4 miles RT, easy). I think they were extra pretty because it was blue skies, but I thought they were so beautiful! Each complete with deadly fangs, these snakes feed on mammals and toads, with larger snakes even dine on animals as large as a prairie dog. Five Mile Mountain (7 miles RT difficult). Popular hiking trails traverse the rugged uplands of the Tongue Mountain Range. Here you have the choice of continuing straight to head right up into the mountains or head along the bay towards Montcalm Point. Want to be a registered member? Be aware of rattlesnakes in this area. This organ picks up the particles collected by the tongue and sends messages to the snake's brain identifying the scent as food, enemy, mate or other object or substance. Behavior of Rattlers: In the northern areas of their range, an… See the FAQ for instructions. The tongue picks microscopic airborne particles and gases from the air. Unless you simply want to do a long strenuous hike, do some of the other great trails in the area. Beautiful views though, just incredible! This is a rugged route passing through forested terrain … and 11 minutes. Insects and mud were present, but modest. If your current e-mail address is not the one registered with vftt, you should include the registered one in the body of your password request. Super fun, tougher hike with spectacular views of Lake George and the surrounding Adirondacks done on an early September, cool, mostly sunny day. Def think the clockwise up to fifth was easier but the views were amazing and made the effort worth it. I have no problem hiking 15 miles when the trail provides the rewards. The maximum reported total length is 189.2 cm (74.5 in) (Klauber, 1956). http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...ec/tirafs.html, http://www.esf.edu/PUBPROG/brochure/snakes/snakes.htm, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265UVANce, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265yCNsJC, http://community.webshots.com/photo/...80703265VWAjOK, http://community.webshots.com/user/anorthosite420. select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Measuring from 3 to 4.5 feet or more in length, the timber rattlesnake is the largest venomous snake in New York. Incredibly slow going on downhills. Trail was not crowded and had plentiful time to look at the views. A lot of up and down and some steep sections. A great hike on a gorgeous fall day. The record length is 74 ½ inches. I underestimated this one. No snakes no ice minimal mud. The trail tends to be dry, so it important to bring plenty of water. I jogged for a couple of minutes every 10 min to get out of there in a reasonable time. Prairie Rattlesnakes den communally, but range up to 7 miles from the dens during the summer. If not take a left and head back towards Clay Meadows. To start viewing messages, Toooo steep toooo much. Great views- but with the deep, loose leaves and loose gravel,I thought the steep descents were really dangerous and more than once I wished I’d brought a hiking partner. At Split Rock Mountain, they're being kept off trails down to the shoreline. The 2258 foot mountain is found after hiking 3.5 miles on the Tongue Mountain Range Trail. Great day! This does not. I hiked the Tongue Mtn trail on Sunday. Not a bad idea to visit both, but be wary of rattlesnakes if leaving the trail during the hot months of summer. I wore trail runners; my wife ankle high boots. MOS Reptiles. I said "you think so ?" Ascents to the peaks are mostly in the 10-20% grade range while the descent from the last peak (First Peak) to the lakefront is steeper and requires some scrambling. Views from all 3 were spectacular and the descent out wasn't bad, just long. specializing in boa morphs/ball morphs/blue tongue skinks and anything else reptile related!!! I, too, questioned my solo hiking. Be sure to read the Terms of Service before using VFTT.org. Large specimens can reportedly weigh as much as 4.5 kg (9.9 lb). Rattlesnakes are almost never found in the High Peaks region (I have never heard of a report). You are now at the top of French Point Mountain with more views down to the lake and across to the mountains on the remote east side. 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